tv 1968 New Hampshire Presidential Primary CSPAN August 7, 2018 7:32pm-8:01pm EDT
>> cspan, where history unfolds daily. in 1979, cspan was created as a public service by americans cable television company. today, we continue to bring you unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house, the supreme court, and public policy events in washington dc, and around the country. cspan is brought to you by your cable or satellite provider. >> next, new hampshire secretary of state bill gardner posts a look back at the state's 1968 presidential primary. then support eugene mccarthy, president lyndon johnson, and republican richard nixon. senator mccarthy opposed the vietnam war and his strong challenge to president johnson and the nation's first primary along with robert kennedy's entry soon thereafter is
thought to have played a role in the president's decision to pull out of the race less than three weeks later. on the republican side, mr. nixon's when launched him on a path to victory in november. we are going to show you a half hour portion of the event. the entire discussion is on c- span's video library, cspan.org. >> we got to the end of the side of the table thinking about history. depending where you are in age, and where you are in conscious memory, you have to realize the young people had grown up in families where there was a war almost seemingly constantly. born in 59, i call myself a war baby, because i can distinctly
remember the sounds of hitler and mussolini on the bbc as we turned on the radio and listened on the sunday night news. subsequently, watching this happening to my family and have been torpedoed. as i walked into my high school , we now have the korean war. the korean war was a war that was forgotten. people did it and came home. they believes they were for the most part, and we try to forget it. but my age group had gone past the point of being draftees,
you are going to get chosen. i went to the university of new hampshire. there are started to get involved with spaulding, peter spaulding, and he was the republican party. the university campus had two rules where democrats met and where republicans met. sometimes, they met on the same night, and sometimes we would go downstairs, and sometimes we would drive to adobo where we could go dime. to me this was a fun thing. i grew up in a family that was very political and had run for offices and other countries and states. it was almost like a boxing match, that you get in the ring, and you mix it up. when the bell rings and it is over, you come back and you put
up the gloves. in new hampshire, for those who are watching this program, remember at the time we were all young people pretty much. new hampshire was smaller. so, the total amount of people voting was smaller. but, new hampshire was put together like a good organization should be put together. it had town committees we looked at chairman, it had committees whether you looked at chairman, and we had state litigation. they were organized right down the line, and the democrat is the same way. so everyone was involved. someone asked me when i was
with marshall, they said what is new hampshire's favorite sport? marshall said everyone was seemingly get involved. it seems like everyone is touched about the same people around here. i was hired by a group called princeton research. it had nothing to do with the university of princeton. but, it paid well. i had to get through a questionnaire of about 40 questions, and produce that, and bring them back.
>> if you got the proper sampling, you get a very good reading on people's opinion. i went around, door to door, it was not too difficult and sometimes, but i notice even with my own thought, i am talking mill workers, i'm talking university employees, all the people in the middle, one question that struck me at the end is that after they found out they knew there was more than one united states senator in the states, many didn't. after they found out when you vote three or four times, they said would you vote for a
presidential candidate who was divorced? even with the bell curve is, it was the perfect bell curve. if you are a woman, protestant, jewish, or other, right there smack in the middle, was a big fat no. i'm thinking that maybe that report went to rockefeller. maybe that report went to his opponents, and maybe that was used to get rockefeller off to the side, because he did have a large amount of money to use in the primary. he went to vietnam, he came back, and he had the one word, i was brainwashed. it was not political parties that put him off the ticket, it was the media. people said what is wrong with
this guy. he went there and he does not believe in america. i'm thinking i was in the high school and korean war, i was chasing russian submarines in the north atlantic, which told me there was a strong goal, then there is this vietnam war. now people want to run the country, i want to be president, and this issue is coming to the top. the statistical things i had to do in school taught me a lot about new hampshire. new hampshire had a very high percentage of people who had sued the services. in south carolina, they were big bases there. but a lot of people in new hampshire served in the united
services through all of these different wars. we had strong feelings of wanting to be patriotic, but also one analytical truth. as we look back to it, we can say we did not know for certain there was a disengagement from what the military was feeding our united states president, and a disengagement from what the public was getting from the media, and a disengagement or feeling from politicians that they did not want to lose one. they probably were looking for the hope of what happens if we hang on. now to nixon. nixon wrote several articles. political journals published them in circulation 2000.
i guess you can call him a globalist today. he looked at the whole world of what was happening. despite all the things that happened after the fact, as a quaker, he did not really like the concept of war, because he made comments that the war only get to to a table where you will then finally settle it with a treaty. but, getting to the table is a disastrous thing that societies have to do in order to keep the peace for all the other people who don't have the strength you keep the peace. this has been a republican position for a long time. peace, democrats picked it up, but everybody believes that. but, many people believe in politics that you have to have
military strength that you don't want to use and you can't use in the concept of what is called mad at neutral distraction with nuclear bombs. so, the public at that time, republicans, many independents, and some democrats, felt that johnson had not done enough to get it over with, and nixon showed a little hope that he was thinking of a way to resolve the vietnam war and conclude it. of course, that did ultimately happen. it was but happened. but, the idea of where we got in vietnam before was never truly discussed which started way back with a person's blood, jack kennedy.
help the french. that policy has continued. there is plenty of evidence that shows that we should have not got in there -- gone in there for a military reason that we were not ready to go all the way and challenge the chinese power. that was nixon's strength with a lot of people who were moderates. when we look at the republican party at the time, at the time it was considered moderate people. walter pedis's leadership and others passed out slips, and everybody did not know who to vote for, so we made valid
names. take it to the ballot box, go inside, and write it down. we did not win the election, but it did get us younger people involved in politics and to understand that there are some strong differences in opinion, and when it is all over, we have got to touch base again and see if we can work for the next four year period. it was really kind of a lynching feeling of listening to the opposition which had strong points, and then listening to the candidate or the supporters who were really leaning hard on the tradition, and we must win this war, or we will lose the global strategy that the united states, and the state department, to all of the
citizens had supported. thank you. >> now, we are going to have joe mcquaid, the president's unique newspaperman experience talk about both parties from that perspective. >> thank you mr. secretary, and thank you for putting this on. it is a great history lesson. i think it underlines what new hampshire brings to the national table every four years. people in towns and cities get out in favor of the candidate, and try to impress their neighbors about it. i am much younger than bill, i was a freshman at unh, he was already a sophomore i was not paying much attention to the 1968 campaign except as it regards the draft in vietnam.
my dad would have in the editorial that said mccarthy is a vote for hanoi. as a matter fact, he did write that editorial. in it, here is the father's logic, he said that people should not be for johnson because he is not prosecuting the war correctly. they certainly should not be for mccarthy because he is a commie for hanoi. so if the good people for new hampshire and the democratic ballot to do something, they should write in richard nixon. richard nixon did not get a lot of votes on the democratic ballot. however, jean mccarthy got more than 5000 votes on the republicans ballot. this revisionist history that somehow a vote for mccarthy was still a vote in favor of the war, i think somebody at the new york times somebody is
drinking the kool-aid. i was at unh when george romney was still in before he made his famous i got brainwashed remarks came down in my newspaper which was great on names for people with: romney chihuahua george. is there anybody in this room besides bill who knows what that means relative to romney? he was born in mexico. 's parents were mormons, and there was some question as to whether he could serve as president should he be elected. but, that never came to pass. rockefeller was quite the force. people had to be reminded he had been divorced, the only had to go to william loeb and the new leader, who famously wrote on the front page, rocky is a wife's whopper.
the national press, which we are getting to be interesting -- interested in this guy loeb, said but you have been married before. loeb said yeah, but i am not running for president. what those people and very few people knew at the time was that william loeb had been married three times. they also did not know is that when nixon decided he was going to run, which was 1967, was first hired a young guy patrick j buchanan. one of the first orders of business for pat by nixon was to go up to the north shore of massachusetts and try to win over this guy bill loeb. so, pat went, became great friends with both bill and mackey loeb, became such funds that when romney is out and there is a right and effort
being staged in 1968 by bill's buddy hugh greg for rockefeller, pat buchanan writes a piece called nels the knife, which says rockefeller trades in his republican friends. he cut out romney, he cut of javits, etc. this piece appeared on the front page of the manchester union leader under the byline of william loeb. but, pat have written it for him. when pat and nixon fly into grenada field in manchester, that morning for a campaign appearance, a guy runs up on the plane and excitedly hands nixon a union leader with william loeb's editorial. nixon reads it and says pat, why can't you write like that?
back on the democratic side i think it shows the power of the new. lisa's -- newspaper in the campaign. how the hell biller clark and bj mcquaid only got along, is beyond my understanding. but blair later became president of cbs news when john kennedy was president. he later edited the nation magazine, and i became friends with him, he's a nice guy. my uncles who were reporters on that paper, along with the kid who according to my father only got the job because his aunt put up some of the money, was a kid named ben bradley, and he did not last long either.
the new hampshire primary is so important to the body politics of the united states, and mr. gardner here does a great job of protecting that, although he was a little chagrined this morning when the only question asked of him of the tv news is about tom quinn day tomorrow and what he is going to do with it. thank you for having us, billy. >> i think we have time for a question or two. >> 1968 was a big year for bob. that is the year he and my mother married, they had their
fifth child. four years later, he ran for governor of new hampshire. mr. loeb gave him the name broad- based bobby because he was an income tax supported. to this day, we still have people ask my wife, are you related to broad-based bobby? to this day, bob has nothing but great things to say about mr. loeb. i'm glad to be here to represent bob. >> bob is still pruning his risk when he swings the club at 81. i want to mention one anything, it was a shock to people when lyndon johnson decided he was not going to run again based on that new hampshire primary result. that was not the first time it had happened in new hampshire. it was a reference about slideshow to a guy named keith
hoffer, and it was just a reference. in fact in 1962, estes kefauver, a senator from tennessee, challenged harry truman. truman did not even want to be on the ballot. truman said primaries were eyewash, but somebody talk to him to put his name on the ballot, and keith hoffer cleaned the floor with him. three weeks later, harry truman said that is it, i'm not running again. the other piece from 1968 on the republican side, william loeb was a very strong backer of richard nixon. i don't know how much it had to do with the fact that william loeb wanted to get his buddy jimmy hoffer out of jail, and nixon as president will hold the keys to the cell. >> interesting story. >> i want to thank all of you for this, this very unique piece of american history, and history here. so, 50 years ago right now, the
last of the towns that opened the polls without 11:00. so, everyone was building 50 years ago exactly right now, and the result of that voting had the biggest impact on our primary than any other primaries. there were 12 primaries, and then this one was the 13, and then there were 12 after. in 2020, we will be celebrating the hundredth anniversary of being first. and the big change was 1968, because a country saw something , they were only 14 states that have primaries that year, and new hampshire was talked about for almost 5 weeks about what happened. how did this happen, was it just the young people, the
issues that were turned upside down. people in washington realized the law was much more significant in people's minds than they ever thought. in honor of david whole who two years ago said this would be a really good idea, and i want to think pat farrell whose husband bill was a delegate as a democratic convention with sandy and with paul, famous picture of the chicago park, he was in that picture with paul. he saves a lot of memorabilia, and passed that along to us, and patsy somewhere, pat are you, okay i talked to her before at the beginning of this.
>> i would like to thank you very much for putting this together. it is really an outstanding program. i hope that you can make the film, not just the short film, but the two hours of tape available to every high school and college in new hampshire. >> anyone else? >> sue roman, is she here? sue also has quite a collection. she brought it, it is over here. thank you susan for doing that. >> to save my future, and i just mentioned i called my brother an old man, and i really did not mean that reshma
>> with that, thank you. >> since 1967, and i don't know who owned the new hampshire highway hotel at that time, whether dick martin still owned it or not, but the background of every candidate was discussed there after the legislator when all 424 and everybody, all of the lobbyists would end up after a session, it was over at the highway hotel, because of the kennedy would have their operations over there. if you did not get it upstairs in the legislative sessions, you got it over there. more policies and procedures were discussed over and that highway hotel than anywhere else in the state of new hampshire, except for the manchester new meter. >> with that ruth, you have the
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